You seemed to enjoy your recent CMT Crossroads show with Darius Rucker. When someone is that ingratiating, it's hard to be a curmudgeon, though I tried. We walked out and we went, "How come black people hate us? They fuckin' hate our guts." And then we both agreed that, you know, they've got good reason! I sat down and the guy next to me goes, "Hey, John, you want some popcorn? But I think I do." And he's always got some kind of ankle disease or some shit. His mother met John Masset when she was pregnant with Dylan and they married out of high school.He grew up thinking that this was his biological father.But whether he wants them or not, songs still come to him, as his strong, country-inflected new album, Sad Clowns and Hillbillies (made in collaboration with Carlene Carter), makes clear.
He brought a new poetic expression to American song at a time, remember, when American song was still obsessed with moons, Junes and surfing."And I'll be like, 'No, I don't want to fucking write a song.' Then the voice will go, 'You better write this down, you idiot.' Then I forget about it, and I find it and go, 'When did I write this? I just wrote a beautiful fucking [protest] song called "Easy Target." And nobody gave a fuck. ' It's a wonderful way of writing songs." How would you define your relationship with the country-music world? I remember arguing – not arguing, joking – with Arlo Guthrie about how to play "This Land Is Your Land" at a Woody event. I said, "Guthrie, your old man did not put those fucking chords in there." He goes, "That's the way I played it forever." I go, "I don't care." We ended up playing it my way. In that song you mention "Sucker Town." Are Trump voters suckers? It's been discussed for years – a certain element of our country ... They voted for Reagan, and in the town I live in, there would be Bush signs up in people's yards. He's a lost soul who finds himself drifting back into the troubled lives of his mother and brother.Dylan was born to Norma and her brother Caleb as Caleb would rape her everyday from when she was 13 until the time he left home.